Cubs Growing Angered With Ryan Theriot


Over the last couple of years, Ryan Theriot has really come onto the scene as a true fan favorite for the Chicago Cubs. But Theriot is not making any fans within the Cubs front office.

Word has it that the Cubs front office is angered with Ryan Theriot due to the amount that Theriot submitted for arbitration figure. Theriot submitted a $3.4 million figure, while the Cubs submitted a $2.6 million figure. And Theriot has yet to back off from his original demand.

Bruce Miles, who was on 670 the score today, hinted that Theriot is running the risk of being a player that the Cubs look to trade, or non-tender after the coming season. Because many feel that touted Shortstop Starlin Castro will be ready by the time the 2010 season is over. Meaning he could be a threat to Theriot’s job security as the starting shortstop. But I doubt that the Cubs would put much consideration into ridding themselves of Ryan Theriot.

If you to ask me on my thoughts about Ryan Theriot, I would tell you that as a shortstop he is about an average player in the major league, due to his defensive liabilities. But as a second basemen Theriot could be one of the better ones around the league. If you look at his offensive numbers he is in the top ten among shortstops for average (.284), on base percentage (.343), and steals (20). However, he is among the midway point for all defensive categories. Not to mention he really does not have the arm strength of a shortstop. So by moving him over to second base, you would be improving not only his play, but your overall team defense.

The Cubs are starting to show that they no longer will throw money out whenever they feel like it. Besides I think the Cubs offer to Theriot was very fair considering he made only $500K last year. $2.6 million is a reasonable pay raise, and I can see why the Cubs front office may be at odds with Ryan Theriot right now.

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  • fan

    I like Theriot’s bat, but that’s about it. He’s not fast (contrary to popular opinion) and he’s not a great defender. I think you hit it right on the nose when you said he’s average overall — and average is not worth $3.4m. So I wouldn’t cry if they traded him. I don’t think Pinella would either; that’s why he hinted that Andres Blanco, with his smooth defense, could win a starting job if he can hit .240. What better way for our new all-star hitting coach to prove himself than by getting Blanco to hit a little better?

  • bd

    i think he’s better defensively than everybody’s making out… especially if you call him a “liability,” than say that he’s “among the middle” in the same article. IMO, 3 mill for a team leader who hits .300 with a good OBP, can lead off, steal bases, possibly hit 10 HRs, with average defense is, in no way, too much.

  • fan

    Theriot made 15 errors last season — that’s good for 5th most in the NL. And that’s about 5 errors more than defensive shortstops. For reference, Neifi Perez committed 10 and 7 in ’05 and ’04, respectively. In ’03 Alex Gonzales committed 10 errors. Both were considered good defenders. (FYI, Theriot committed only 8 errors in ’07 and 14 in ’08.)

    As for his legendary speed, he got caught 10/31 times. That’s about 32.3% of the time. To me, fast means about 28%, or better. (FYI, Ellsbury got caught less than 15% of the time.) Of course, I’m using “fast” to also include “skill” since stealing bases requires more than just speed. Without either, he can’t possibly be very good at leading off.

    I think what happens too often is fans fall in love with a guy and can’t see their faults. You can usually tell because they start talking about their leadership skills and clubhouse demeanor… ;)

  • Thomas (Florida)

    They need to tell Theriot to agree now or run a risk of not being tendered a contract. He is OK, but that is too much $$$ for him. They need to non-tender him, sign either Lopez or Hudson at 2B and let Baker, Fontenot, Castro fill the SS and backup roles in the I/F. Hudson would replace Fontenot at the top of the order and is a switch hitter and multiple time gold glove winner. Hudson will barely get $5 M since only the Nats are competition, so with the 2-3M saved on Theriot he will be a steal.

  • fan

    I like Thomas’ idea — especially if it doesn’t prevent Hendry from getting a decent right-handed setup man. I wish we had Wuertz back because getting Kris Benson may not cut it…

    • jordanc

      Look Theriot does not have the arm strength to play shortstop, which is something that does not show up in stats.

      Benson is not a foregone conclusion that we will get him, still other teams interested in him.

  • fan

    They can have him (Benson)!

    • jordanc

      I think the Cubs are more interested in Anna Benson, his wife.